Rahul Das

Hello @bekee,

Thank you for the detailed report.

The radio and checkbox renderer currently includes individual labels for each option, while the <fieldset> and <legend> grouping code is commented out. The renderer also does not add a group-level role or aria-labelledby association for the question label.

We’ll review the appropriate implementation and update this topic when verified information is available.

Thank you

Hello there,

Thanks for reaching out.

Following your query, existing submissions retain the value that was selected when they were submitted.

For example, if a visitor submits Event 1, and you later update the available options to Event 3 and Event 4, the previous entry will continue to show Event 1, while new submissions will store the newly selected option.

Therefore, you can update the Training Date options for future events without changing the values already stored in previous Fluent Forms entries.

However, before deploying, you can check it by yourself by submitting some dummy data.

Thank you

Hello there,

Thanks for the extra detail on this. We don’t have WebMCP form coverage yet, but as we already logged it as a feature request, our team is currently going on with further assessments.

Thank you

Hello there,

This can be done using the combination of dropdown and custom HTML field. You can follow the procedure mentioned below:

1. Add the states to a Dropdown using Bulk Edit / Predefined Data Sets.
2. Enable Show Values. Keep each option label as the state name, but enter its contact details as the option value—for example:
   Alabama — John Doe — john@example.com — 555-1234
3. Add one Custom HTML field below the dropdown and enter:
   {dynamic.dropdown}
   Replace dropdown with the Dropdown field’s actual Name Attribute.

The same HTML field will update automatically when a state is selected from the dropdown field, with no conditional rules or second selection required.

Fluent Forms documents both bulk editing Dropdown options and displaying an input’s current value using the SmartCode.

I hope it will work for you.

Thank you

• This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by Rahul Das.

Hello there,

Thank you for the detailed report and for the execute() test. It confirms that on your Neodigit server the route-group callbacks run later than they should. Your workaround makes Fluent Forms work again, but it ignores route settings that other plugins chain after group(), so please treat it as temporary.

The next Fluent Forms release ships an updated routing layer (framework 2.12.8) where each route group keeps its own settings, so the routes register correctly no matter when the callback runs. That release fixes your site regardless of the server cause.

We would still like to understand what your server does differently. The two small files below test, outside WordPress, whether PHP on your server runs an object’s destructor at the end of the statement, which is what the route groups rely on. Running them on both the failing host and the working host and comparing the two outputs tells us where the difference comes from.

What you need:

• File manager or FTP/SFTP access to both servers.
• About five minutes per server.

Step 1: Create the two files

Create these two files with exactly these names. The first one includes the second, so both names must stay as they are.

File 1: ff-probe-7f3a.php

<?php
header('Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8');

class Probe
{
    public static $log = [];
    public function __construct()          { self::$log[] = 'construct'; }
    public function __call($m, $p)         { self::$log[] = "chained call: $m"; return $this; }
    public function __destruct()           { self::$log[] = 'DESTRUCT'; }
}
function make() { return new Probe; }

// 1. Temporary object in an expression statement (this is how route groups are used).
make()->prefix('x')->withPolicy('y');
Probe::$log[] = '-- end of statement 1';

// 2. Same thing from inside an included file, like a routes file.
include __DIR__ . '/ff-probe-7f3a-inc.php';
Probe::$log[] = '-- after include';

// 3. Object kept alive only by a WeakReference.
$weak = null;
if (class_exists('WeakReference')) {
    $weak = WeakReference::create(make());
    Probe::$log[] = '-- end of statement 3, weak ref still alive: ' . var_export($weak->get() !== null, true);
}

echo "Destructor timing (each DESTRUCT should appear BEFORE the '-- end of statement' line that follows it):\n";
foreach (Probe::$log as $line) echo "  $line\n";

echo "\nEnvironment:\n";
echo "  PHP " . PHP_VERSION . " (" . PHP_SAPI . ")\n";
foreach (['zend.enable_gc', 'zend.exception_ignore_args', 'opcache.enable', 'opcache.jit', 'opcache.jit_buffer_size',
          'opcache.optimization_level', 'opcache.validate_timestamps', 'opcache.revalidate_freq',
          'auto_prepend_file', 'auto_append_file', 'disable_classes', 'disable_functions'] as $key) {
    printf("  %-28s = %s\n", $key, var_export(ini_get($key), true));
}
printf("  %-28s = %s\n", 'gc_enabled()', var_export(gc_enabled(), true));
printf("  %-28s = %s\n", 'WeakReference exists', var_export(class_exists('WeakReference'), true));
echo "  loaded extensions: " . implode(', ', get_loaded_extensions()) . "\n";

File 2: ff-probe-7f3a-inc.php

<?php
make()->group('z');
Probe::$log[] = '-- end of statement 2 (inside include)';

Step 2: Upload them to the WordPress root folder

Upload both files into the folder that contains wp-config.php and WordPress’ own index.php.

• On Plesk this folder is usually httpdocs.
• On cPanel it is usually public_html.
• If WordPress is installed in a subfolder (for example /blog/), upload the files into that subfolder.

Nothing else needs to be changed. The files do not load WordPress and do not touch the database.

Step 3: Open the probe in your browser

Open this address, replacing the domain with yours:

https://your-domain.com/ff-probe-7f3a.php

If WordPress lives in a subfolder, include it:

https://your-domain.com/blog/ff-probe-7f3a.php

The page shows plain text. Select all of it and copy it.

Step 4: Repeat on the working host

Upload the same two files to the working server, open the same address there, and copy that output as well.

Step 5: Delete the files

Delete ff-probe-7f3a.php and ff-probe-7f3a-inc.php from both servers. The output lists PHP settings and extension names, so the files should not stay online.

Step 6: Send us the results

Please paste both outputs into the ticket, labelled “failing host” and “working host”, together with:

• The Must-Use Plugins and Drop-ins sections from Tools > Site Health > Info on the failing host. Hosting providers sometimes add these outside the site files, so they can differ between servers even when the site files are identical.
• Please redact any confidential information you do not wish to share publicly on the forum.

What we look for

Each DESTRUCT line should appear before the -- end of statement line that follows it. On a normal server the top of the output reads:

construct
chained call: prefix
chained call: withPolicy
DESTRUCT
-- end of statement 1

If on the failing host DESTRUCT comes later, or is missing, PHP itself is delaying destructors there, and the extension list at the bottom of the output should show what is installed on that server and not on the other.

If something goes wrong:

• The browser shows the PHP code as text, or downloads the file. PHP is not executing at that path. Check that the files are in the same folder as wp-config.php.
• 404 or 403. The files are in the wrong folder, or the server’s security filter blocked the name. Try renaming both files (keep the -inc suffix on the second one and update the include line in the first one to match).
• The files disappear after upload. A malware scanner quarantined them. Please tell us; that is useful information on its own.

Thank you again for your help with this.

Hello there,

Thanks for reaching out.

I tested this by adding a form with Turnstile inside an Elementor modal, and the Turnstile widget displayed properly on my end. Please check the screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lVvh9RbDwo-Jsed7euJr4e3mgw1MnzZh/view?usp=sharing

So it may be specific to the Element Pack modal widget settings, the way the modal loads the content, or a caching/optimization script delaying the Turnstile script.

Please try temporarily disabling JS optimization/minification for that page and also check whether the modal widget has any lazy-load or dynamic content loading option enabled. If the issue still happens, please share the page URL so we can inspect for any potential error message.

• This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by Rahul Das.

Hello there,

I’m glad to inform you that the issue has been fixed and an update has been released already. Please update the plugin to it’s latest version (6.2.12) and check again.

Please let me know the update.

Thank you