Big Road Blues Show 9/20/26: Greenville Sheik – Josh White & Pals

ARTISTSONGALBUM
Josh WhiteBlack & Evil BluesThe Essential Josh White
Josh WhiteLittle Brother BluesThe Essential Josh White
Josh WhiteGreenville SheikBluesman, Guitar Evangelist, Folksinger
Lucille BoganMan Stealer BluesShave 'Em Dry: The Best of Lucille Bogan
Lucille BoganBarbecue BessShave 'Em Dry: The Best of Lucille Bogan
Josh WhiteCrying BluesThe Essential Josh White
Josh WhiteLazy Black Snake BluesThe Essential Josh White
Josh WhiteJesus Gonna Make Up My Dying BedBluesman, Guitar Evangelist, Folksinger
Charlie SpandGood GalDreaming the Blues: The Best of Charlie Spand
Leroy CarrBig Four BluesWhiskey Is My Habit, Women Is All I Crave
Leroy CarrGood Woman BluesThe Essential Josh White
Josh WhiteLow CottonBluesman, Guitar Evangelist, Folksinger
Josh WhiteBlood Red RiverThe Essential Josh White
Josh WhiteWelfare BluesJosh White 1933-1935
Josh WhiteI Believe I'll Make a ChangeThe Essential Josh White
Josh WhiteFriendless City BluesThe Essential Josh White
Josh WhiteGone Mother BluesThe Essential Josh White
Walter RolandSail on Little Girl No. 2The Essential Josh White
Walter Roland.45 Pistol BluesThe Essential Lucille Bogan & Walter Roland
Josh WhiteHomeless and Hungry BluesThe Essential Josh White
Josh WhiteSissy ManThe Essential Josh White
Josh WhiteI Got A Home In That RockJosh White 1935-1940
Blind Joe TaggartScandalous And A ShameGuitar Evangelists, Vol. 2
Blind Joe TaggartMother's LoveGuitar Evangelists, Vol. 2
Josh WhiteJet Black WomanJosh White 1935-1940
Josh WhiteProdigal SonJosh White 1935-1940
Josh WhiteTalking About My TimeJosh White 1935-1940
Leroy CarrHustler's BluesWhiskey Is My Habit, Women Is All I Crave
Leroy CarrBread BakerWhiskey Is My Habit, Women Is All I Crave
Josh WhiteSilicosis Is Killin' MeJosh White 1935-1940
Josh WhiteDefense Factory BluesBluesman, Guitar Evangelist, Folksinger
Josh WhiteEvil Hearted ManLeadbelly & Josh White (Reamaining Titles) 1937-1946
Buddy MossOh Lordy Mama No. 2The Essential Buddy Moss
Buddy MossYou Got to Give Me Some of ItThe Essential Josh White
Buddy MossCan't Use You No MoreThe Essential Buddy Moss
Josh WhiteHow Long Has That Evening Train Been GoneFreedom: The Golden Gate Quartet & Josh White At The Library Of Congress
Lead Belly & Josh WhiteDon't Lie BuddyLeadbelly Vol. 3 1939-1947
Lead Belly & Josh WhiteMother's Blues (Little Children Blues)Leadbelly Vol. 3 1939-1947

Show Notes: 

Josh Wgite Ad
Advertisement for Josh’s first gospel releases, c. 1933

Today’s show is devoted to the early recordings of Josh White, who in some ways, was plagued with the same criticisms as Big Broonzy’s and Sonny Terry & Brownie’s McGee’s folk period. As Chris Smith notes: “The phases of Josh White’s career have long aroused controversy; …many white blues fans dismissed White’s ‘folk blues’ as inauthentic, and his early blues were assumed to be similarly valueless, an assessment now generally agreed to be inaccurate; more recently White’s biographer, Elijah Wald, has mounted a stout defense of the later music’s technical, artistic and ideological ambitions, and has characterized White’s ‘race’ recordings as unremarkable.” As Wald himself states: “Josh was first and foremost a live performer. He was a fine singer and a versatile and unique guitarist, but that was not what made him a star. He was, rather, a personality, a great entertainer, a self-directed theatrical creation. When he entered a room, every eye was on him. He had what would come to be called charisma, on – or offstage, and people who saw him in his heyday describe a magnetism and magic that will forever be elusive to those of us who know him only from the records, some photographs, and a few minutes of film. Josh reinvented himself over and over, drastically at first, then subtly, keeping pace with the world around him as he grew from a poor boy leading blind street singers through the South into an international star, darling of the night- clubs and guest of presidents.”

For our show we focus on the early years, 1928 through 1944, spinning many fine records he cut for black audiences as well as his excellent session work backing Leroy Carr, Buddy Moss, Walter Roland, Lucille Bogan and others. My view on White is that his early records make for great listening, sporting his impressive guitar and vocals and that he was a superb session guitarist. However, even in these early recordings, there is a hint of artifice and slickness that became more pronounced as he changed styles and audiences and while his socially conscious songs were no doubt earnest, they are a bit too on-the-nose to my ears. The bulk of today notes comes from Elijah Wald’s Josh White: Society Blues.

Josh White was born in Greenville, South Carolina and 1920 a federal census he was aged five, living with his mother, Lizzie White, four siblings, and two young cousins, Marie and Belmont Huff, in the house of his maternal grandparents. His father was a tailor but he was also preaching as a Methodist minister. Hs father was arrested and then sent to the asylum. With all the music around his home, it was natural for Josh to be interested. One day he saw a blind man with a guitar walking through the neighborhood. John Henry “Big Man” Arnold lived nearby and when he became unemployed he had become a street musician, playing guitar and singing religious songs. Josh was seven or eight years old when he met Arnold. “He asked would I like to lead him after school, and I said to ask my mother. So, after school, I would lead this man, John Henry Arnold. …[He paid me] four dollars a week, and four dollars a week in those days was good money. That’s how I started out playing —I wasn’t playing guitar, I was beating a tambourine.” Josh worked as lead boy for John Henry Arnold and other blind Greenville singers for most of the 1920s. Older members of the town’s black community still remember him, a barefoot boy with a tambourine, standing on a downtown street corner and keeping time as the men sang gospel songs in their loud, rough voices. He eventually went on the road with Arnold.Josh White

The Greenville players were Josh’s main instrumental influences. He told of leading anything from thirty to four dozen different musicians in his ten years in that trade, and of picking up new employers here and there during his travels or being hired out by Arnold to other singers, but he cited only eight by name, and all but two of these were based in Greenville. His main employer after Arnold was Joe Taggart, who in 1926 became the first street-corner evangelist to record. He would watch them play, then sneak off with a guitar after they had gone to sleep and try to duplicate what he had seen and heard. The man who served as his mentor and who became his greatest early influence was Blind Lemon Jefferson. However he acquired his skills, by age fourteen Josh had become an accomplished player. He was good enough that, when he traveled to Chicago in 1928 as lead boy to Joe Taggart, Taggart chose to use him as an accompanist on a recording date. The tightness of their recorded duets suggests that the two had been playing together for some time. Josh first recorded with Taggart in October 1928, cutting four sides that were released on the Paramount and Herwin labels. It is on the fourth song, though, that Josh proves his mettle, taking the lead on both vocal and guitar for a bright, upbeat reading of the popular “Scandalous and a Shame.” The record, when it was released, was credited to “Blind Joe Taggart and Joshua White.” “Scandalous and a Shame” seems to give Josh the distinction of being the youngest recorded soloist in pre-World War II race music.

Mayo Williams of Paramount, who took an immediate liking to Josh, was bothered by the fact that Taggart was not paying the boy for the recording work and “horrified” to find that Josh had not been able to attend school and seemed trapped in the life of a street- corner vagabond. Williams recalled that he became something of a regular around the company and “recorded frequently, with just about everybody.” Just how much accompanying work Josh actually did is hard to say but he was almost certainly the guitarist on a 1929 recording session in Richmond, Indiana, by the pianist and singer Charlie Spand. Josh’s only fully identified appearance from this period was a month after the Spand date, when he was back in Richmond playing lead guitar on “Wang Wang Harmonica Blues” with a white hillbilly band called the Carver Boys. Along with these side jobs. Josh continued to perform with Taggart and seems to have added harmony vocals on Taggart’s records through late 1929.

Greenville Sheik

The popularity of Josh’s recordings is reflected in their effect on other players. Bruce Bastin, in Red River Blues, his landmark book on southeastern blues styles, cites their influence on Buddy Moss and Blind Boy Fuller, who were, along with Josh, the region’s most popular recording stars of the 1930s. Bastin writes that another guitarist from Fuller’s hometown of Durham, North Carolina, remembered Fuller sitting by the phonograph, playing Josh’s “Low Cotton” over and over until he had learned it by heart. Fuller also recorded a nearly exact cover of Josh’s “So Sweet, So Sweet.” Josh play behind Moss on several songs cut in August 1935.

A&R man Art Satherley remembered  meeting White when he was sick: “Josh was very weak and thin. He was in this little wooden unpainted house by the side of the road. In the little fireplace were a few smoldering embers giving off very little heat. There was no spare wood. Josh was covered with a blanket and sitting in a chair. At that time he insisted that if he could record for American he would follow the advice of his mama and daddy and sing ‘Christian’ songs only. A contract was signed and a few months later ARC sent for Josh to come to New York. He went into the studio in April 1932 and recorded twenty songs in four sessions. All twenty of Josh’s first titles were in the blues vein. It is hard to say how well they did, as no regular tabulations of race record sales have been kept, but the fact that ARC consistently released more of his records each year for four years suggests that they were reliable sellers.

White found a new home in New York City, for although his records were sold mostly in the Carolinas and neighboring states, he would never again return to the South for anything but fleeting visits. Josh had seen enough of rural poverty and racist abuse. New York was fast establishing itself as the center of black America, and he was ready to take advantage of all it had to offer. At one of his recording sessions he happened to catch the ear of Julian Street Jr., a white, well-to-do music fan who served as a talent scout for NBC radio and had come to hear another group. Through Street, he got a regular job appearing on Harlem Fantasy, an all-black radio show. In 1934 he was married. Like most male singers of his generation. Josh had taken Leroy Carr as a model, and in 1934 he made the acquaintance of the duo while they were on a recording trip to New York. Josh sit in and showed his stuff at their studio session on August 13, 1934. Josh sang four numbers with Carr on piano and either himself or Blackwell on guitar (the aural evidence suggests that they alternated). Josh’s records with Carr and Blackwell were released as by “Pinewood Tom and his Blues Hounds.” The Pinewood Tom pseudonym had been adopted for Josh’s first releases of 1934, and he continued to use it for all his blues performances until he stopped working for ARC two years later.

Friendless City BluesHis last three records of 1933 had all been religious pairings released under the name Joshua White (the Singing Christian) and advertising him as “the Sensation of the South,” who “sings Christian songs for the colored people.” Of the dozen records he released in 1935, all but two were blues pairings. By this time. Josh had become a fixture at ARC, and March 1935 found him practically living in the studio. He had formed a partnership with a pianist and singer named Walter Roland, and they traded off playing on each other’s sessions as well as accompanying Lucille Bogan. Josh stayed out of the studio for the next three months, but he returned with a vengeance in August. This time, he was working in partnership with Buddy Moss. The next week, Lead Belly was signed by Art Satherley to an ARC recording contract. Josh would later say that he first met Lead Belly at that time, and it was probably the publicity surrounding Lead Belly’s arrival that inspired him to record a prison number, “Talking about My Time.” His first session of 1936 featured the pairing of “No More Ball and Chain” and “Silicosis Blues.”

There’s a story of how his commercial blues career ended; He recalled being “quite a lady’s man in those days and another man and I were seeing the same woman. He said some things about me, and one night I ran across him on the street and took out after him into a building and held the door shut, and I just went right through the glass with my fist. ….Josh was so badly cut that when he was rushed to the nearest hospital, the doctors told him they would have to amputate two or three fingers if he did not want his hand to become permanently paralyzed. Josh rejected this prognosis and insisted that they patch him up the best they could… By one report he required three separate operations, but the result was that he kept the fingers. Nonetheless, for several years they were so stiff and clumsy that his guitar playing was reduced to the most rudimentary strumming.

Scandalous And A ShameWhite did a fair bit of session work in these early years; he played guitar behind Lucille Bogan on a handful of sides from 1935 and plays behind her piano partner, Walter Roland beginning in March of 1935, over the course of several sessions, which were Roland’s last. The final coupling was unissued and is listed as Walter Roland and Pinewood Tom (“Steak and Onion Stomp b/w Bachelor Stomp”). White is possibly the guitarist on a four-song Charlie Spand session from August 1929, played behind Leroy Carr a several nubers from December 1934, with  Buddy Moss on several songs cut in August 1935 and with Joe Taggert appears on six numbers from 1928 on vocal and guitar and three more in 1929. He was also on a couple of numbers with Lead Belly.

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Big Road Blues Show 9/13/26: Victim Of the Blues – Ma Rainey Part II

ARTISTSONGALBUM
Ma RaineyLost Wandering BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerDiscussion of Records IIInerview
Ma RaineyDream BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Ma RaineyOh My Babe BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerMore Song Discussion IIIInerview
Ma RaineyOh Papa Blues (tk. 1)Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Ma RaineyMisery BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerMore Song Discussion IVInterview
Ma Rainey1 Army Camp Harmony Blues (tk. 1)Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Ma RaineyDaddy GoodbyeMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerMore Song Discussion V - Tampa Red & Georgia TomInterview
Ma RaineyBlack Eye Blues (tk. 2)Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Ma RaineyDown In the BasementMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerMa's Last YearsInterview
Ma RaineyGeorgia Cake-WalkMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Ma RaineyTraveling Blues (tk. 1)Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Doug BensonSearching for 78's to MasterInterview
Ma RaineyVictim Of The BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Ma RaineyDeep Moaning BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Doug BensonCombing Through the DiscographyInterview
Ma RaineyBlues The World Forgot - Part 1Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Doug BensonTransfering the RecordsInterview
Ma RaineyBlack Cat Hoot Owl BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Doug BensonMore on Transfers and MasteringInterview
Ma RaineyProve It On MeMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Ma RaineyMa Rainey's Black BottomBlame It On The Blues
Ma RaineyChallenges Mastering Paramount 78sInterview
Ma RaineyHear Me Talking To YouBlame It On The Blues
Ma RaineyBlame It On The BluesBlame It On The Blues
Doug BensonLength of the Project and Help from CollectorsInterview
Ma RaineyMa On StageInterview
Ma RaineyLeaving This MorningMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Ma RaineyBlack Eye Blues (tk. 2)Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Doug BensonCrossing Blues & JazzInterview
Ma RaineyChain Gang Blues Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Ma RaineyBig Boy BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Doug BensonGetting to Know Ma Rainey & SomeInterview
Ma RaineyBlues Oh BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Ma RaineyHoney Where You Been So LongMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
Doug BensonFinal ThoughtsInterview

Show Notes: 

Mother of the BluesToday’s show revolves around a box set that I have been waiting years to finally come out, and it was worth the wait. Black Swan Records has finally released Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928, a 5-CD set collecting all of Ma Rainey’s recordings in stunning sound with a terrific booklet filled informative essays, gorgeous photos and other ephemera. Ma’s stature as giant of pre-war blues and her influence has never been doubt, but her wonderful recordings were handicapped by Paramount, who despite recording some of the era’s greatest blues artists, pressed records with very poor fidelity. It’s not hyperbole to say that this is the best sounding collection of Ma’s recordings by a good margin. It’s like a veil has been lifted and we are hearing her remarkable singing and her great bands in a whole new light. The biggest blues queens had sobriquet’s penned by the record labels; Bessie Smith was The Empress, Clara Smith Queen of the Moaners, Ida Cox the Uncrowned Queen of the Blues and Ma was the Mother of the Blues. As David Sager writes in the notes: “Yet, it was not undeserved: she was one of the first singers on the black vaudeville stage to feature blues, in addition to being more or less a decade older than most of the other blues divas of the day.” All of the above-mentioned Blues Queens had been on the black music circuit when the blues had yet to become the popular black music of the day but by all accounts, Ma was among the earliest, starting sometime around the turn of the century. Over the course of two shows we delve deep into Ma’s catalog, hearing classics and lesser-known gems. In addition, we chat with David Sager, who wrote the bulk of the notes, and Doug Benson who did the mastering. All of today’s notes come from the essay by David Sager.

The 1900 U. S. Census enumerates Gertrude Pridgett as being 17 years old, which makes 1882 her likely birth year. It also indicates that Gertrude was born in Russell County, Alabama, the oldest of four children. Around 1890, the family moved to Columbus, Georgia, a city that Ma would consider home for the rest of her life. In 1896, when Gertie was about 14 years old, her father died, putting additional financial strain on the Pridgett family. Gertie, being the oldest, was no doubt called upon to help her mother bolster the family’s income. Soon she began singing, at first around town, at arranged and staged amateur nights and publicity-gathering “ballyhoos,” which were hastily put on by local promoters who sought out local African American talent. It is believed that Gertie’s first appearances on stage took place at the local Springer Opera House, where she participated in a series of amateur shows that were titled “A Bunch O’ Blackberries.” Blues didn’t exist at the time and black and white performers where known as “coon shouters,” who, while wearing blackface makeup, performed ragtime-infused “coon songs.” Coon songs were composed by white Tin Pan Alley composers. The term “coon shouter” remained common until about 1916, when, thankfully, it was displaced by “blues singer.”

A publicity action shot of Ma and the Wildcats.
from left: Gabriel Washington – drums; Al Wynn – trombone; Dave Nelson – cornet; Ma Rainey; Eddie Pollock – saxophone; Tom Dorsey – piano

There exists no printed nor anecdotal evidence of Gertie’s career until her marriage, on February 2, 1904, to singer, dancer, and comedian William Rainey, whom she no doubt met while performing with a minstrel troupe led by one Moses Stokes. The cloudy path of the Raineys’ career grows clearer, thanks to an item in the Indianapolis Freeman of August 25, 1906, stating that they were directing and appearing with the Alabama Fun Makers Company. Later in 1906, the Raineys’ joined A Rabbit’s Foot Company, a traveling show managed by pioneering black show-biz entrepreneur Pat Chappelle. They were not yet known as “Pa” and “Ma,” their billing describing them as “Sketch Artists, Black Face Song and Dance Comedians, Jubilee Singers and Cake Walkers.” The Rabbit’s Foot Company primarily performed tent shows throughout Southern cities and small towns. During the spring of 1909, Will and Gertrude became part of Benbow’s Chocolate Drops. y the time they began their six-weeks engagement at Atlanta’s Luna Park Theater, Will and Gertrude, billed as “Rainey and Rainey,” had left Benbow and were with the Georgia Sunbeam Company. Gertie was still not featuring blues but continued to add syncopated Tin Pan Alley hits to her repertoire.

Like ships passing in the night, the Raineys’ traded venues with a young, and still inexperienced Bessie Smith. Will and Gertrude moved their act into Atlanta’s Arcade/81 Theatre, just as Bessie was headed for Luna Park in Atlanta. There is no evidence that the two had already met, although folklore asserts that the two were acquainted. Regardless of their previous meetings, Ma Rainey and Bessie Smith certainly knew each other by early September 1910, when they appeared in Memphis, at the Pekin Theater, as “The Three Trio.” The constant travel was apparently beginning to wear on Will Rainey. In early 1911, his weakened onstage presence provoked criticism from a writer for the Freeman who noted that while Gertie was a “great coon shouter,” the “gentleman should retire from the stage.” During a jaunt in the summer of 1913 that took the Raineys’ from Newport News, VA to New York and then to Chicago, Gertrude began to feature blues songs. The blues as a musical term was not widespread at this time. Rainey offered her own recollection of first learning about the blues, when she was interviewed by folklorist John W. Work III, during a 1930s engagement in Nashville where she recalled hearing the blues in n 1902 in a small town in Missouri where she was appearing with a show under a tent. She tells of a girl who came to the tent one morning and began to sing about the “man” who had left her. The song was so strange and poignant that it attracted much attention. “Ma” Rainey became so interested that she learned the song from the visitor, and used it soon afterwards in her “act” as an encore.

Chicago Defender, Jan. 23, 1926

The next important move for the Raineys’ was during the summer of 1915, when they joined a tent show, known as Alexander Tolliver’s Smart Set touring company. Ma was already well-known enough to be considered the star of the show. The name “Smart Set” represented the finest in black vaudeville entertainment. They performed on a huge 40-foot stage, under a 160-foot round-top tent, with capacity for 3000. And thanks to Tolliver, we have the earliest known photograph of Ma Rainey, along with the only known photo of William “Pa” Rainey. It appeared in the Christmas Day 1915 issue of the Indianapolis Freeman. Below their portraits, Tolliver styled them as “Rainey and Rainey… Assassinators of Blues.”  The Smart Set also offered vestiges of the minstrel show, with Ma portraying “Aunt Nancy,” a stereotypical “colored mammy,” against a cottonfield backdrop. According to Bee Henderson, a chorus girl, Rainey would open the show in the “Mammy” persona, singing the “Cottonfield Blues.” he most vivid accounts we have of Ma Rainey, during this period, come from trombonist Clyde Bernhardt (1905-1986), who was twelve years old when the Smart Set visited his hometown: “The people were all so nice, especially Ma Rainey. She was then rated to be the greatest blues singer in the world. …Ma Rainey closed the show. When she was ready to go on, the great lady start[ed] singing in the wings and as the curtains opened, strutted out flashing those gold-plated teeth and her expensive gold necklace. She wore a long, gold silk gown that swept along the floor, gold slippers, and carried a sparkling rhinestone walking cane. Her hat was high and wide with large feathers stuck in it, had gold earrings dangling and diamond rings on all her fingers. When she got to center stage under those amber spotlights, the audience just went wild.”

The Raineys’ left Tolliver during the summer of 1917 and returned to Southern vaudeville. Shortly thereafter, Ma shared the bill with singer Edmonia Henderson, a Kentuckian and a future Paramount Records artist. She and Ma formed a lasting friendship. 1918 was a typically busy year for Ma, including a three-week stint in Birmingham, a return to the Arcade/81 Theatre in Atlanta, and a visit with her sister, back in Columbus. After a brief run with C. W. Park’s Colored Aristocrats, she formed her own company, under Parks’ management, called Madam Rainey’s Southern Beauty Show. It is unknown if Will was still traveling with his wife. William “Pa” Rainey died on June 29, 1919, while in Montgomery. Blues was on the rise and in 1915  W. C. Handy’s “St. Louis Blues” brought blues, as a genre, to its widest audience so far, becoming one of the most often performed songs of the 20th century. Around the time of Pa’s death, Ma joined up with yet another ensemble with the ubiquitous title “Smart Set.” During the autumn of 1920, touring with her Southern Beauties Company, which included future blues star Virginia Liston, Ma went from Newport News, to Chicago, and then a tour of the South, that took her to Dallas and Beaumont, Texas

By March 1922, Ma Rainey signed with white impresario John T. Wortham, to appear with her own minstrel company of 20, as part of Wortham’s Big Carnival. he Wortham carnivals were enormous affairs, which in addition to Ma’s minstrel company, included a musical revue of 20 additional performers and a circus sideshow. During one stay in Breckenridge, Texas, Ma’s troupe was photographed by Basil Clemons. Three images survive, one showing Ma, with her head held back and right hand pointed skyward, and Troy Snapp’s band, identified by Clemons as “Madam Rainey’s Jazz Hounds.” In August, Okeh invited Mamie Smith to return to the Okeh studio, with an all-black band in accompaniment, to wax Perry Bradford’s “Crazy Blues.” With its companion title, Bradford’s “It’s Right Here For You,” the disc sold like wildfire, erasing any lingering doubts on Okeh’s part that blues and jazz played by African American artists could make money and lots of it. By 1923, the enormous market for blues records was primed and ready for Ma’s entrance, late that year.

Chicago Defender, Feb. 18, 1928

In November or early December 1923, after a rest, enjoying the familiar southern heat of Mexico, Ma headed north to Chicago, where she would make her recording debut. Supervising the sessions would be Mayo Williams who’s official title at Paramount was “Recording Director,” and he also acted as a talent scout. Both Richard M. Jones and Lovie Austin claimed to have recommended Ma Rainey to Paramount. But it is likely that Williams was already aware of Ma and her reputation, and at the urging of Edmonia Henderson, arranged for her travel to Chicago, to begin recording. Thomas Dorsey, one of the was on hand to assist Ma in rehearsing the numbers she would record. Dorsey was part of Williams’ stable of pianist/composers, along with Lovie Austin and John Erby, who would compose, rehearse, and arrange material for Paramount’s other blues women, like Ida Cox and Edmonia Henderson. Indeed, Dorsey, Erby, and Austin would all contribute work for Ma’s first session. Rainey’s becoming a Paramount artist came at a price: the diverse repertoire and styles she so expertly performed during her years in vaudeville vanished, at least on record, giving way to slow tempo blues. Ma Rainey would henceforth be touted as a “blues singer.”

Gratified by the success of Ma’s first batch of recordings, J. Mayo Williams arranged for Ma to tour on the still new circuit, known as the Theater Owners Booking Association (T.O.B.A.). October was a busy and eventful month for Ma. Following an appearance in Birmingham, she took the train to New York, for two recording sessions, set up by J. Mayo Williams, at Paramount’s Studio at 1140 Broadway. After years of traveling various circuits catering to black entertainment, Ma Rainey was now firmly ensconced in the hands of the Theater Owners Booking Agency, or T.O.B.A. However, she also continued to play independent engagements, such as fair and carnivals. 1926 found Ma at her professional peak, with a full schedule of theater and recording dates. In November Ma and her accompanists, guitarist Blind Blake and violinist Leroy Pickett, encountered something new at the recording studio. Gone were the tin recording horns, which had been replaced by a microphone, and the process went from acoustic to electric recording.

Chicago Defender, Sep. 22, 1928

Although Ma Rainey could not see it coming, the infrastructure that helped keep black show business alive, namely the Theater Owners’ Booking Association, T.O.B.A., was beginning to show signs of erosion. Finally, in 1928 the encroaching decline became a stark concern for the agency, theater owners, and Paramount records. y autumn, theater tickets, ranging from 60 cents to a dollar, were swiftly becoming unaffordable, shutting out much of Ma’s core audience. Paramount executives undoubtedly took notice of the diminishing sales of Ma’s recordings, as well as its other blues stars, such as Ida Cox, and informed Ma that they would be dropping her from its roster. When queried years later, a former Paramount employee explained that Ma’s “downhome style had gone out of fashion.” In her book, Mother of the Blues: A Study of Ma Rainey, author Sandra Lieb tells us, “Ironically, 1928 was one of Ma’s finest years, both artistically and commercially.” Most of Ma’s 1928 recordings had her in the company of Thomas Dorsey, along with his frequent partner, guitarist “Tampa Red. Why Ma did not follow some of her Paramount cohorts, like Tampa Red and Georgia Tom, over to the Vocalion label, is a mystery. By 1930, Ma Rainey’s work was largely with fairs and carnivals in the Southwest, particularly in East Texas towns.

She sought relief from the rigors of her work by retreating to Matamoros, Mexico, where she had “retired” in the early 1920s. In 1935, while visiting nearby Brownsville, Texas, she received word from home that her sister, Malissa, had died. By 19345 she had retired. There are only a few scraps of evidence marking happenings in Gertrude’s life from 1935 to 1939. Perhaps the last news mention of Ma during her lifetime involves the altruistic efforts of music critic and civil rights activist John Hammond, who, in December 1939, was “en route to South Carolina, to try and persuade “Ma” Rainey to come out of retirement and sing for the jitterbugs.” Hammond was in the throes of assembling two concerts to be held at Carnegie Hall, titled From Spirituals to Swing. The concerts were held on the 23rd and 24th of December. On December 22, one day before From Spirituals to Swing, at 9:40 pm, she passed away.

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Big Road Blues Show 9/6/26: Yonder Come the Blues – Ma Rainey Part I

ARTISTSONGALBUM
Ma RaineyBarrel House Blues (tk. 2)Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerGenesis of the ProjectInerview
Ma RaineySouthern BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerResearchInterview
Ma RaineyCell Bound BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerMa's Start and Black Music of the TimeInterview
Ma RaineyYa-Da-Do (tk. 3)Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerSheet Music and Beginning of the BluesInterview
Ma RaineyShave 'Em Dry Blues (tk. 2)Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerBlack Vaudeville ShowsInterview
Ma RaineyBooze And BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerIncorporating Blues and Pa RaineyInterview
Ma RaineyJealous Hearted Blues (tk. 2Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerJealous Hearted Blues (tk. 2Interview
Ma RaineySee See Rider Blues (tk. 1)Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerCoon Songs, Blues and Connecting with the AudienceInterview
Ma RaineyLawd Send Me A Man BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerMa's PersonalityInterview
Ma RaineyStormy Sea Blues (tk. 2Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerMa's Power and Hearing Her in a New LightInterview
Ma RaineyCountin' The Blues (tk. 2)Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerTOBAInterview
Ma RaineyLouisiana Hoo Doo BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerBefore the TOBAInterview
Ma RaineyLevee Camp Moan Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerMore on VaudevilleInterview
Ma RaineyYonder Come The BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerRecollections of Ma's PerformanceInterview
Ma RaineyMemphis Bound BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerMa On StageInterview
Ma RaineyBessemer Bound Blues (tk. 2)Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerGetting On Record & Mayo WilliamsInterview
Ma RaineyStack O' Lee BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerMore On Mayo Williams and Ma's BandInterview
Ma Rainey(tk. 1 - unissued test)Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928
David SagerDiscussion of Records IInterview
Ma RaineyMoonshine BluesMother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928

Show Notes: 

Mother of the BluesToday’s show revolves around a box set that I have been waiting years to finally come out, and it was worth the wait. Black Swan Records has finally released Mother of the Blues: The Complete Paramount Recordings 1923–1928, a 5-CD set collecting all of Ma Rainey’s recordings in stunning sound with a terrific booklet filled informative essays, gorgeous photos and other ephemera. Ma’s stature as giant of pre-war blues and her influence has never been doubt, but her wonderful recordings were handicapped by Paramount, who despite recording some of the era’s greatest blues artists, pressed records with very poor fidelity. It’s not hyperbole to say that this is the best sounding collection of Ma’s recordings by a good margin. It’s like a veil has been lifted and we are hearing her remarkable singing and her great bands in a whole new light. The biggest blues queens had sobriquet’s penned by the record labels; Bessie Smith was The Empress, Clara Smith Queen of the Moaners, Ida Cox the Uncrowned Queen of the Blues and Ma was the Mother of the Blues. As David Sager writes in the notes: “Yet, it was not undeserved: she was one of the first singers on the black vaudeville stage to feature blues, in addition to being more or less a decade older than most of the other blues divas of the day.” All of the above-mentioned Blues Queens had been on the black music circuit when the blues had yet to become the popular black music of the day but by all accounts, Ma was among the earliest, starting sometime around the turn of the century. Over the course of two shows we delve deep into Ma’s catalog, hearing classics and lesser-known gems. In addition, we chat with David Sager, who wrote the bulk of the notes, and Doug Benson who did the mastering. All of today’s notes come from the essay by David Sager.

The 1900 U. S. Census enumerates Gertrude Pridgett as being 17 years old, which makes 1882 her likely birth year. It also indicates that Gertrude was born in Russell County, Alabama, the oldest of four children. Around 1890, the family moved to Columbus, Georgia, a city that Ma would consider home for the rest of her life. In 1896, when Gertie was about 14 years old, her father died, putting additional financial strain on the Pridgett family. Gertie, being the oldest, was no doubt called upon to help her mother bolster the family’s income. Soon she began singing, at first around town, at arranged and staged amateur nights and publicity-gathering “ballyhoos,” which were hastily put on by local promoters who sought out local African American talent. It is believed that Gertie’s first appearances on stage took place at the local Springer Opera House, where she participated in a series of amateur shows that were titled “A Bunch O’ Blackberries.” Blues didn’t exist at the time and black and white performers where known as “coon shouters,” who, while wearing blackface makeup, performed ragtime-infused “coon songs.” Coon songs were composed by white Tin Pan Alley composers. The term “coon shouter” remained common until about 1916, when, thankfully, it was displaced by “blues singer.”

There exists no printed nor anecdotal evidence of Gertie’s career until her marriage, on February 2, 1904, to singer, dancer, and comedian William Rainey, whom she no doubt met while performing with a minstrel troupe led by one Moses Stokes. The cloudy path of the Raineys’ career grows clearer, thanks to an item in the Indianapolis Freeman of August 25, 1906, stating that they were directing and appearing with the Alabama Fun Makers Company. Later in 1906, the Raineys’ joined A Rabbit’s Foot Company, a traveling show managed by pioneering black show-biz entrepreneur Pat Chappelle. They were not yet known as “Pa” and “Ma,” their billing describing them as “Sketch Artists, Black Face Song and Dance Comedians, Jubilee Singers and Cake Walkers.” The Rabbit’s Foot Company primarily performed tent shows throughout Southern cities and small towns. During the spring of 1909, Will and Gertrude became part of Benbow’s Chocolate Drops. y the time they began their six-weeks engagement at Atlanta’s Luna Park Theater, Will and Gertrude, billed as “Rainey and Rainey,” had left Benbow and were with the Georgia Sunbeam Company. Gertie was still not featuring blues but continued to add syncopated Tin Pan Alley hits to her repertoire.

Like ships passing in the night, the Raineys’ traded venues with a young, and still inexperienced Bessie Smith. Will and Gertrude moved their act into Atlanta’s Arcade/81 Theatre, just as Bessie was headed for Luna Park in Atlanta. There is no evidence that the two had already met, although folklore asserts that the two were acquainted. Regardless of their previous meetings, Ma Rainey and Bessie Smith certainly knew each other by early September 1910, when they appeared in Memphis, at the Pekin Theater, as “The Three Trio.” The constant travel was apparently beginning to wear on Will Rainey. In early 1911, his weakened onstage presence provoked criticism from a writer for the Freeman who noted that while Gertie was a “great coon shouter,” the “gentleman should retire from the stage.” During a jaunt in the summer of 1913 that took the Raineys’ from Newport News, VA to New York and then to Chicago, Gertrude began to feature blues songs. The blues as a musical term was not widespread at this time. Rainey offered her own recollection of first learning about the blues, when she was interviewed by folklorist John W. Work III, during a 1930s engagement in Nashville where she recalled hearing the blues in n 1902 in a small town in Missouri where she was appearing with a show under a tent. She tells of a girl who came to the tent one morning and began to sing about the “man” who had left her. The song was so strange and poignant that it attracted much attention. “Ma” Rainey became so interested that she learned the song from the visitor, and used it soon afterwards in her “act” as an encore.

Rainey & RaineyThe next important move for the Raineys’ was during the summer of 1915, when they joined a tent show, known as Alexander Tolliver’s Smart Set touring company. Ma was already well-known enough to be considered the star of the show. The name “Smart Set” represented the finest in black vaudeville entertainment. They performed on a huge 40-foot stage, under a 160-foot round-top tent, with capacity for 3000. And thanks to Tolliver, we have the earliest known photograph of Ma Rainey, along with the only known photo of William “Pa” Rainey. It appeared in the Christmas Day 1915 issue of the Indianapolis Freeman. Below their portraits, Tolliver styled them as “Rainey and Rainey… Assassinators of Blues.”  The Smart Set also offered vestiges of the minstrel show, with Ma portraying “Aunt Nancy,” a stereotypical “colored mammy,” against a cottonfield backdrop. According to Bee Henderson, a chorus girl, Rainey would open the show in the “Mammy” persona, singing the “Cottonfield Blues.” he most vivid accounts we have of Ma Rainey, during this period, come from trombonist Clyde Bernhardt (1905-1986), who was twelve years old when the Smart Set visited his hometown: “The people were all so nice, especially Ma Rainey. She was then rated to be the greatest blues singer in the world. …Ma Rainey closed the show. When she was ready to go on, the great lady start[ed] singing in the wings and as the curtains opened, strutted out flashing those gold-plated teeth and her expensive gold necklace. She wore a long, gold silk gown that swept along the floor, gold slippers, and carried a sparkling rhinestone walking cane. Her hat was high and wide with large feathers stuck in it, had gold earrings dangling and diamond rings on all her fingers. When she got to center stage under those amber spotlights, the audience just went wild.”

The Raineys’ left Tolliver during the summer of 1917 and returned to Southern vaudeville. Shortly thereafter, Ma shared the bill with singer Edmonia Henderson, a Kentuckian and a future Paramount Records artist. She and Ma formed a lasting friendship. 1918 was a typically busy year for Ma, including a three-week stint in Birmingham, a return to the Arcade/81 Theatre in Atlanta, and a visit with her sister, back in Columbus. After a brief run with C. W. Park’s Colored Aristocrats, she formed her own company, under Parks’ management, called Madam Rainey’s Southern Beauty Show. It is unknown if Will was still traveling with his wife. William “Pa” Rainey died on June 29, 1919, while in Montgomery. Blues was on the rise and in 1915  W. C. Handy’s “St. Louis Blues” brought blues, as a genre, to its widest audience so far, becoming one of the most often performed songs of the 20th century. Around the time of Pa’s death, Ma joined up with yet another ensemble with the ubiquitous title “Smart Set.” During the autumn of 1920, touring with her Southern Beauties Company, which included future blues star Virginia Liston, Ma went from Newport News, to Chicago, and then a tour of the South, that took her to Dallas and Beaumont, Texas

By March 1922, Ma Rainey signed with white impresario John T. Wortham, to appear with her own minstrel company of 20, as part of Wortham’s Big Carnival. he Wortham carnivals were enormous affairs, which in addition to Ma’s minstrel company, included a musical revue of 20 additional performers and a circus sideshow. During one stay in Breckenridge, Texas, Ma’s troupe was photographed by Basil Clemons. Three images survive, one showing Ma, with her head held back and right hand pointed skyward, and Troy Snapp’s band, identified by Clemons as “Madam Rainey’s Jazz Hounds.” In August, Okeh invited Mamie Smith to return to the Okeh studio, with an all-black band in accompaniment, to wax Perry Bradford’s “Crazy Blues.” With its companion title, Bradford’s “It’s Right Here For You,” the disc sold like wildfire, erasing any lingering doubts on Okeh’s part that blues and jazz played by African American artists could make money and lots of it. By 1923, the enormous market for blues records was primed and ready for Ma’s entrance, late that year.

Ma Rainey's Jazz Hounds
Troy Snap and Band, Ma is at the far right, with finger raised skyward.
Photo By Basil Clemons.

In November or early December 1923, after a rest, enjoying the familiar southern heat of Mexico, Ma headed north to Chicago, where she would make her recording debut. Supervising the sessions would be Mayo Williams who’s official title at Paramount was “Recording Director,” and he also acted as a talent scout. Both Richard M. Jones and Lovie Austin claimed to have recommended Ma Rainey to Paramount. But it is likely that Williams was already aware of Ma and her reputation, and at the urging of Edmonia Henderson, arranged for her travel to Chicago, to begin recording. Thomas Dorsey, one of the was on hand to assist Ma in rehearsing the numbers she would record. Dorsey was part of Williams’ stable of pianist/composers, along with Lovie Austin and John Erby, who would compose, rehearse, and arrange material for Paramount’s other blues women, like Ida Cox and Edmonia Henderson. Indeed, Dorsey, Erby, and Austin would all contribute work for Ma’s first session. Rainey’s becoming a Paramount artist came at a price: the diverse repertoire and styles she so expertly performed during her years in vaudeville vanished, at least on record, giving way to slow tempo blues. Ma Rainey would henceforth be touted as a “blues singer.”

Gratified by the success of Ma’s first batch of recordings, J. Mayo Williams arranged for Ma to tour on the still new circuit, known as the Theater Owners Booking Association (T.O.B.A.). October was a busy and eventful month for Ma. Following an appearance in Birmingham, she took the train to New York, for two recording sessions, set up by J. Mayo Williams, at Paramount’s Studio at 1140 Broadway. After years of traveling various circuits catering to black entertainment, Ma Rainey was now firmly ensconced in the hands of the Theater Owners Booking Agency, or T.O.B.A. However, she also continued to play independent engagements, such as fair and carnivals. 1926 found Ma at her professional peak, with a full schedule of theater and recording dates. In November Ma and her accompanists, guitarist Blind Blake and violinist Leroy Pickett, encountered something new at the recording studio. Gone were the tin recording horns, which had been replaced by a microphone, and the process went from acoustic to electric recording.

Ma and her Wildcats Band.
from left: Eddie Pollock, saxophone; Albert Wynn, trombone; Tom Dorsey, piano; Ma Rainey; Dave Nelson, cornet; Gabriel Washington, drums

Although Ma Rainey could not see it coming, the infrastructure that helped keep black show business alive, namely the Theater Owners’ Booking Association, T.O.B.A., was beginning to show signs of erosion. Finally, in 1928 the encroaching decline became a stark concern for the agency, theater owners, and Paramount records. y autumn, theater tickets, ranging from 60 cents to a dollar, were swiftly becoming unaffordable, shutting out much of Ma’s core audience. Paramount executives undoubtedly took notice of the diminishing sales of Ma’s recordings, as well as its other blues stars, such as Ida Cox, and informed Ma that they would be dropping her from its roster. When queried years later, a former Paramount employee explained that Ma’s “downhome style had gone out of fashion.” In her book, Mother of the Blues: A Study of Ma Rainey, author Sandra Lieb tells us, “Ironically, 1928 was one of Ma’s finest years, both artistically and commercially.” Most of Ma’s 1928 recordings had her in the company of Thomas Dorsey, along with his frequent partner, guitarist “Tampa Red. Why Ma did not follow some of her Paramount cohorts, like Tampa Red and Georgia Tom, over to the Vocalion label, is a mystery. By 1930, Ma Rainey’s work was largely with fairs and carnivals in the Southwest, particularly in East Texas towns.

She sought relief from the rigors of her work by retreating to Matamoros, Mexico, where she had “retired” in the early 1920s. In 1935, while visiting nearby Brownsville, Texas, she received word from home that her sister, Malissa, had died. By 19345 she had retired. There are only a few scraps of evidence marking happenings in Gertrude’s life from 1935 to 1939. Perhaps the last news mention of Ma during her lifetime involves the altruistic efforts of music critic and civil rights activist John Hammond, who, in December 1939, was “en route to South Carolina, to try and persuade “Ma” Rainey to come out of retirement and sing for the jitterbugs.” Hammond was in the throes of assembling two concerts to be held at Carnegie Hall, titled From Spirituals to Swing. The concerts were held on the 23rd and 24th of December. On December 22, one day before From Spirituals to Swing, at 9:40 pm, she passed away.

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